This reminds me of this one time I bumped into a friend. We did some small talk and I asked him where his gf was. He's like, Oh she's on vacation. But that's ok...cuz now when I eat out, everything is half price. hahahahhahah
MY DATE LAST NIGHT --- OMG GUYS READ THIS - 32
Reply to: anon-71676183@craigslist.org
Date: 2005-05-04, 5:49PM EDT
When I did my taxes this year I found out that I spent over $14,000 on Dates last year. Most of that was spent on dinner and drinks in Manhattan. Now don't get me wrong, I had some very good times, some great sex, some good conversations. Hell, I even made a good friend along the way, but mainly I came away from the date feeling extremely disappointed and with a lighter wallet. Date by date it's not THAT much money but it all adds up fast!
In the past I had a habit of always grabbing the check and paying whether my date was hot or not. Whether we clicked or not. Basically I felt ashamed to let her pay. I also kept and interesting statistic and even I was surprised that only 5% of my dates even offered to pay - yes you see that right- 5%! One girl in the entire ye are offered to pay for the entire check. A very nice gesture. But of course I paid and doubt she was sincere. In light of all this evidence I knew I had to change some things. So, this year.....
I DECIDED TO NEVER PAY FOR A FIRST DATE AGAIN. How did I do this? First I adopted the mindset that a girl should naturally assume she's paying for herself. Now this wasn't easy at first but I quickly got used to it. Then when going into the bar/restaurant/lounge etc. I would hand the server a credit card and ask them to open tabs for us. HEY!-Did you catch that? I said 'TABS.' Yah, don't worry at least 95% of the girls I meet miss that one too. Just to make sure I usually confirm that the server has understood me too. I do this when the date rudely answers her cell phone or is in the bathroom (probably using her cell phone). Guys, you know the Mastercard "priceless" series of commercials? Well, let me tell you, you won't understand the meaning of 'priceless' until you see one of these girls handed their own ch e ck for 3 20$ martinis and overpriced food (that they would probably never buy on their own). It's also very relaxing to encourage the girl to eat and drink up because even at 20$ a pop for exotic gooey blender drinks I could care less how many of them she has - cause SHE'S PAYING.
Oddly enough when she realizes that there are individual bills there will a few prolonged moments of discomfort. But don't panic. Something that took me by surprise is how many girls suddenly have to 'go to an ATM'. I can't quite figure out if it's because their cc's are maxed out on shoe purchases or that they are trying to guilt me into paying. Well, probably a combination of both, but I'm remorseless after doing this for nearly 3 months now. Which brings me to my date last night...... omg.....
Of course the classy nice Irish pub I suggested wasn't good enough for her. Nah...she needed to go somewhere more trendy. Ok, no problem. W? Hudson? Meatpacking Dist? SoHo? Where we going? So she picks a midtown hotel ba r. Nice place. Little stuffy. Drinks, not bad and Macadamia nuts on the lounge tables (complimentary) nice! Of course I went thru my usual routine, handed the server a credit card asked her if we can start tabs she said, 'sure' and took the card. 1 drink in her cell phone rang. She apologized, (she had to get it). So I moved into confirmation mode. Our waitress even missed the 'tabs' part but she adjusted on the fly and told me no problem. Boy, let me tell you - the girl i was with could really throw down the drinks. She was drinking scotch that was older than the hotel we were in. Of course I encouraged her the whole way. She was like, wow they have Johnny Walker BLUE label! I was like, 'you ever try it?' She's like....'Nooooooo!!!' I'm like, 'go on....just get some'. She's like 'are you sure'. I'm like, 'look, if you want it, just get it!' So she ordered one, then another, and finally one more..... wow she was probably more than a little drunk. I stuck to my Stoli and Soda, splash of Cran.
When the BILL(S) came she sobered up fast. I caught a glimpse of hers, 5 drinks plus a little finger food $319.00 I think it was. She looked shocked and sick to her stomache when she saw 2 bills. Guess she thought I was buying. Think again. (The old me woulda soaked up the bill but steered her away from the Blue) I had 4 drinks, no food and a great buzz. Pricey Stoli, but overall still a good value (i ate a ton of free macadamias and almonds) $36.00. Damn I thought, that BLUE label will get you every time. Of course she did more than the traditional fumble through her purse. Her face was beat red and she was speechless. She left the bill on the table and excused herself for the restroom. I had already paid and was sucking on some ice. The waitress was looking concerned. I told her, 'look'. Sure enough my date was heading out toward the front door. I slowly grabbed my coat as the waitress ran after her. Then security or a bellman grabbed her at the door and a small shouting match ensued. Can you imagine, she was tryin g to leave - without paying!
Well, I didn't stick around to see what happened. All I saw was the poor waitress standing just inside the front door with a small coctail tray. She did look concerned but not paniced. A doorman and bell hop had the girl by the arm, outside and was semi-forcing her back inside, she wasn't getting away from this bill. I paid my bill. I had my receipt. But I couldn't help wondering why she ordered 3 Johnny Walker Blues, doesn't she know that shit is expensive? Then I wondered if they had to arrest her while I had another drink at my local Irish pub.
I haven't heard from her again. Too bad, she was pretty cute too 
Comments (54)
hahahaha...im not sure how many 2nd dates you'd get with that method...but what do i know?
that shit is funny as hell.
btw, how much a JBB?
DOH! Haha! Well, I know a lot of women that do go out on dates just to get free drinks or meals!
lol. maybe i should try that.
OMG.... that's messed up! serves the girl right though trying to stick us with the check....
OMG thats fucked up on BOTH of their parts!
wow! Hahahaha!!!
OMG that is sooo funny. I always offer to pay and always bring cash and credit card. My mom used to always make me carry at least $100 in cash in my wallet on dates, just in case of an emergency
OMGGGG!!!!
I guess girls like that deserve it. Glad I'll never be in that situation. But what do u do about guys that don't offer to pay? Not even their own share?!?! That's right, kick them to the curb. But you must admit, that guy was a lil deceptive. He went on those dates with the mindset of tricking the girls. He played it off like he was picking up the tab.
I always offer to pay and I always intend on paying. I never go on a date w/o either a credit card or cash, or both. But I like a guy with manners and chivalry and if the guy doesn't show either, there's a slim to nil chance of date 2. I'll offer to pay the bill but if the guy insists on paying, I won't fight him. I can't stand the push and shove to pay the bill. I'll just get the next one. Yes, that means there's most likely a chance of a second date
hahaha. that's too funny.
i don't see the part that's "messed up", unless you count her trying to walk out without paying.
based on the info given this poor sap spent on avg $700 per date, no wonder he did what he did lol
haha... that's really funny... but i sure hope this isnt real. cuz if it is, that guy is an asshole. he's not doing it because he wanted to "save money" etc. if that were the case, he should have been upfront and told the girl they were splitting the bill. but instead, he acted like everything was on him. not saying that the girls are right for trying to suck him dry and order expensive drinks and food. but the guy should at least have the decency to say "Look, I'm not paying for your ass tonight..."
HAHHAHA...omg!
i'm not saying that the girl is right. those types of girls need to learn their own lessons. but at the same time, the guy was WATCHING her make a fool of herself!! egging her on to order the blue label!! that's just fucked up. i hope karma will come to kick his ass....
the fact that he's doing it on the sly -- slipping a credit card to the waiters and bartenders and saying "tabs" -- is messed up. what's wrong with asking the girl, Do you mind if we go Dutch??? i think ultimately, that might possible net him a 2nd date, if he so inclines. do you actually think that last girl who got caught is ever consider going out with him again??
Would somebody please buy this man a beer! He's my new hero.
But I don't understand how he could be classified as an asshole. This is the first date and girls shouldn't assume that the guy is going to pick up the tab. Likewise, you'd think that a woman would have a little more self-restraint and not ordered the most expensive thing on the menu. I think she got what she deserved.
Not many girls are independent. *thumbs down for them*
hahahaha!! you dork!!
i'm not saying that the woman is right. i've already stated that there are lots of girls who need to learn their lessons on this. but what the guy is doing isnt justice. sorry, i'm not a believer in this eye-for-an-eye shit. if the guy wanted to keep things straight, he should be straight up with the women.
from what it sounds like... this guy is going out on dates just so he can screw some girl over. he's not going out with them because he likes them. every date he's been on is a "revenge" date. and you really dont see how this is fucked up?? lolz........
That is so bad and so wrong....but then again, if I like a guy, I will let him pay. If I don't, I will insist on paynig, coz I dont wanna lead him on either.
my problem is i really dont like near strangers paying for me, it goes against all i've been taught regarding independence. but when they dont offer, thats awful. i havent really had that happen but i always, always offer to pay on the first date. and if not the dinner, then maybe the movie or something. but yes... naturally guys should watch out for girls who actially do just go on dates for free drinks/meal.
thats me..hahah
$319 for several drinks of Blue and some finger food?..wtf?...o_0...what a rip!...haha...
funny as hell tho...that bitch totally deserves it...hahaha...
the glaucoma email was totally unnecessary.
sekki.
oh my fucking god. this is one of the most disgusting, repulsive posts i have EVER, EVER read, EVER!!! this dude is defintely not a real man, and who the hell raised this animal!?!?!! nasty, totally nasty...its scumbags like these that give all the rest of u gentlemen bad names. i gotta go puke now.
i forgot to add that it doesnt bother me that this creature (i refuse to call him a guy, bc he isnt a real man to me) doesnt wanna pay. thats totally FINE. grls should always expect to pay for themselves if they wanna go out, period, whether its with other grls or a guy. its part of a good upbringing. gentleman should always also EXPECT to pay for the grl if he ASKS HER out. its part of good upbringing on his part. whoever does the ASKING SHOULD BE PREPARED TO PAY. its etiquette. this creature's "tabS" shit is fucking immature as hell and down right LOW CLASS! furthermore, he watches her humilate herself when he realizes she couldnt pay??? what the hell is that??? this scumbag is not only a STINGY bum, but he should go to hell for having the worst manners, ever.
btw, this is going on my xanga too. i hope u dont mind!
hahaha.... some people have no shame. and yes, i'm referring to both sexes. =P
ryc: hahahhaaa...thanks for offering the other side's view on this subject. i honestly agree with what u wrote on my site except i dont think she is a gold digger, just bc she chose another, lets say, fancier place to go to. i would say she is ill mannered, bc unless there is something TERRIBLY wrong with the place ur date chose, u should always be coopeative and just stay there, since u agreed to go on a date with that guy. a date means meeting up with the guy, and hanging out at the places he chooses!if u dont like his picks, then dont go out with him again! i dont think she should have been so eager to switch venues, unless there were some underlying important reasons why she couldnt stay at the irish pub. so, to me, she is wrong there. but, that doesnt mean she is a gold digger. a gold digger is someone who USES another for solely for one's own financial gain,and a qualifier for a gold digger is someone who is poor to begin with. i dont know her finances, so i cant say, but just switching venues doesnt mean shes out to dig anyone's gold.
with all that said, i still think the guy is wrong. a gentleman will always do the decent thing, no matter what the situations is. as for a brute, well its just hopeless.
qualifier for a gold digger is NOT someone who is poor to begin with. many well to do women marry their 3rd rich husband. i would say these women are good diggers. my 3 cents ^^
btw, that guy should've been more upfront. but the girl's an idiot for ordering something she can't pay for. women shouldn't go on a date assuming the guy will pay. she should always be prepared and willing to pay for her share at least. now if the guy wants to pay, then by all means.
but girls who go on dates for nice meals & drinks are unfortunately common so guys should careful.
This is too hilarious. Some of the responses are so classic. So does this mean that all the women who are getting angry and defending the woman in this story are secretly afraid that they'd be put in this exact same situation?
wow...that's pretty crazy. i think you should stick to paying for the meal. maybe you just shouldn't go to such nice places on the first date!
oh man, this is the most fucked up thing i've ever heard !
hahahaaa
That is so funny. I don't think he went about everything the right way but I do think that he most likely taught that girl a lesson she needed to learn. Everyone knows the rule "do unto others as you would have them do to you", whats the application in this scenrio? Don't order expensive drinks just expecting your date to pay for you, because you wouldn't want someone to do the same to you, especially on the first date. If you can't afford to pay for it, what makes you think that he can? That's totally presumptious. Sometimes people need to learn the value of independance the hard way. I think the wise and safe thing to do is to always assume that the first date will go dutch, unless he of course lets you know in the beginning that he is going to pay for everything.
:shaking head: that's just wrong.
what happen to common courtesy?
hilarious.....
I guess what you did wasn't that bad...it was funny, but the fact that you sorta lead her on to believe that you were going to pay the "tab" the whole time...that's a little messed up. I never really expect guys to pay for me when we go out, but sometimes its nice. I'll even offer to pay for him sometimes. But I'd never lead someone on to believe I was going to pay and then drop the bill on them. Just sayin. It was funny as hell though, its like something you'd see on tv.
-Tonya
god dating sucks
did hottie tra think YOU were the guy in the story????!!??!!?!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
and i'm telling you... what the girl did was NOT right. but that guy was NOT a whole lot better by sneaking around, trying to ENTRAP a woman in this game he's playing. he's malicious. he's BITTER. he's got a huge chip on his shoulders. i agree that there are gold-diggin women out there. but that's why i said maybe he's asking the wrong type of girls out. if he wanted to split the bill, she should have been more upfront. judging from the other commentors on your page, a lot of girls agree with me....
now i'm gonna go read your latest blog about karma.
preach on brother!
LOL.. that's the funniest thing I've read in a long time!! hahaha.. Oh wait.. now i'm getting flashbacks.. nooooo...
omg! that's too funny. and hey, I would never do that to you!! hahahah....
While I understand the point of the article, what he did in encouraging her to drink up, knowing she was not aware that he was not going to pay for her drinks and food, was larceny by trick.
I submit the following in support of my accusation:
"Of course I encouraged her the whole way. She was like, wow they have Johny Walker BLUE label! I was like, ‘you ever try it?’ She’s like….’Nooooooo!!!’ I’m like, ‘go on….just get some’. She’s like ‘are you sure’. I’m like, ‘look, if you want it, just get it!’ So she ordered one, then another, and finally one more….. wow she was probably more than a little drunk. I stuck to my Stoli and Soda, splash of Cran."
I know some people think the girl got what she deserved. Look at how he played this, though: He had his agenda in place well before even asking her out. "I do this when the date rudely answers her cell phone or is in the bathroom (probably using her cell phone)." I'll give him the "rudely answers her cell phone," but the bathroom?!?!?!?
And as far as choosing the bar, on a first date, most women I know would prefer someplace in an area they know and where they feel comfortable in case the date goes south and the guy gets weird.
Aside from that, though, here's why the guy deserves to face criminal charges, or at least a small claims court:
A) He misled her by encouraging her to continue to rack up costs without informing her that he was going to pay the bill. Knowing that he was not going to do so, and continuing to encourage her to indulge, makes him responsible for the costs.
B) He watched her continue to incur these costs without saying, perhaps after a couple to make his point, "OK, you know we're splitting the bill, right?" I mean, a $60.00 bill would have made the point as readily as $319.
C) At some point, alcohol interferes with one's judgment and ability to make decisions like this. Like it or not, it is the normal and reasonable cultural expectation in our society that whoever does the asking is offering to pay the bill unless there is an express understanding to the contrary - express, meaning that you would actually tell your DATE (not just the waitress) that you're going dutch. He should have paid for the whole thing. He got the entertainment value and a column out of the deal - it's the least he could do for humiliating the girl in public TWICE - once at the bar and once online.
And that's just the legal side. From the moral side of it, he should have the words "cheap sadistic bastard" permanently tattoed on his forehead so women at least have a clue. He needs therapy, because he is a worthless piece of pond scum, and he should not inflict himself on people until he does. He also should be courageous enough, since he's obviously proud of his antics, to post a photo so women will know him for the lying, misogynist sadist he is.
And for those who would chastise the girl for trying to duck out on the bill, remember: she was drunk. Her judgment was impaired by the guy she should have been able to trust enough to not set her up like that. I hope whoever that girl is has at least one real friend who is a lawyer - that was cruel.
For the guys who think this was funny, or that the girl got what she deserved? Your local yellow pages (or SMARTpages.com) lists licensed therapists in your area, too. People who go into a dating situation thinking that they can exact revenge for the past do not need to be in ANY type of relationship - casual, sexual or otherwise - with human beings until they take care of their baggage.
AND ANOTHER THING!! If you read this thoroughly (sorry - I forgot to add something!), she asked him, "'are you sure'." She asked before she ordered, and she only did so after he pressed her to order "if you want it." GRRRRRRRR!
(I feel somewhat better now!)
first off, the comments she made "wow they have Johny Walker BLUE label! imply that this was a new venue for her...not really the warm, familiar bar one might go to in case a date goes south.
reading the comment - "If you want it" can hardly be construed as a binding agreement that the guy will foot the bill. sorry but the girl made a critical assumption as this point(that the guy would pay). she should have gone another step and been like, "oh its so expensive I can't afford it." followed by a variation of puppy dog eyes aimed at the guy. then the onus woudl be on the guy...at this point, its still on the girl.
from the legal side...and I'm not a lawyer, but a "normal and reasonable cultural expectation" isn't the same as a written law. so while she may have expected him to pay, it doesn't mean he has to. even the waitress recognized this when she started separate tabs. and realistically, if this case was brought to court it'd be the girl, not the guy who would be convicted. after all while the guy may be guilty of a "social" crime, the girl who tried to escape the financial repercussions is in fact guilty of a theft, which is... a state crime? I dunno. so in a sense, yes...I hope she had a lawyer who can get her out of any charges the bar may have levied against her.
and regarding the tatoo on his forehead... I suppose that would be justified. The flip side of course is that all females who take advantage of situations where they have no interest in a guy but still gouge them on the tab because its free should have something like: "selfish, gold digging bitch" tatooed on their forehead.
Larceny by trick is obtaining something of value from someone by deceit. Yes, this qualifies. And, the fact that he started out with the intention of having her pay and didn't have the balls to tell her satisfies intent to deceive. "If you want it" wasn't identified as an excuse but as evidence of his intent to perpetuate the deception to accomplish a specific result. Going back to a previous point, if he just wanted wanted to expose her as a gold-digger, why go to $319? A $60 or $80 bill would have accomplished the same thing.
Whether she had been in that particular place or not isn't the issue - location and proximity to places where she knew she could get home is.
Trying to leave without paying was an error in judgment on her part, but she was drunk by that point. It negates formation of intent, so while not a great idea, I don't fault her as much as I do the guy, who did what he did intentionally and with forethought. Had I seen someone in the same situation, I might have recommended that she tell the management the entire story and make arrangements to pay in installments rather than try to skip, but again, alcohol impairs judgment.
Ideally, what she should have done is not go out with the guy in the first place, but wanting to meet "the one" can sometimes lead both men and women to make errors in judgment when evaluating a prospective new date. For example, the post is completely silent on whether the guy, in asking for the date, put himself out there as himself, or as someone with a lot of money who could show a girl a good time.
As far as the reasonable cultural expectation not being written law, so what? What decent guy would ask a girl out with the pre-conceived intention of humiliating her? And why, if he was just trying to make sure he didn't get stuck with a huge tab, would he tell the waitress BUT NOT HIS DATE (whom he supposedly knew at least marginally and had some personal interest in) that they each would be paying for their own refreshments at the beginning so that she had an opportunity to make her own decisions? Unless, of course, he only asked her out to humiliate her.
The fact that she was red-faced, embarrassed and ashamed that she couldn't pay the bill suggests that she wasn't a gold-digging bitch, but instead a somewhat naive girl who perhaps just wanted to see if the guy she'd agreed to go out with was someone she wanted to get to know better.
And another thing: this guy spent how much money on dates with women who apparently were not interested in him. The old saying "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result" comes to mind. Why is he continually drawn to women who treat him badly? Is it perhaps because he wants a woman who looks like a million dollars, will have sex with him (and only him) on the first date and whenever afterward he feels like it, but he doesn't want to bother with the responsibility of a real relationship or commitment, or dare I say, marriage?
This is really about communication when you are dealing with human beings. According to his own statements, this guy plotted to cause this girl to lose substantial amounts of money at his instigation and for his own amusement (i.e., benefit) before he ever asked her out. That is larceny by trick, and it is not only written law, it's sanctionable conduct.
Considering the opening to the post, he would have done the same thing at the comfortable Irish pub that he did in the midtown bar. He did this on purpose, he did it deliberately to accomplish the result that occurred, and he should make that right.
That you seem to know that she didn't give the guy "puppy dog eyes" during the exchange, and that you persist in seeing her as a gold-digging bitch without even trying to see things from another perspective tells me that you either are the cheap sadistic bastard or that you know him personally. Either way, I suggest therapy to explore your not-so-latent hostility toward women.
hi there... this story is freaking hilarious!!!
lawyerchik1 - it was neither me nor do i know the guy. i don't persist in seeing her as a gold digging bitch, so much as i just use that term to mirror your use (and other commentors) of "cheap sadistic bastard". that's all. i wouldn't even use that particular term if I didn't feel like I had to balance out the other side of this debate. i have no latent hostility towards women but let's hold both sides in this "story" (because who knows how true it is) equally accountable. no need to get personal. =)
"Larceny by trick is obtaining something of value from someone by deceit" ok...you educated me on the deceit part. what "value" did he get out of this that wasn't perpetuated by the woman? if she got drunk and was stuck with the tab for 6 beers at a irish pub, it'd be perhaps $30-$40 of "humiliation" which probably would have been within her means and not led to the incident that amused him so much. my reference to cultural expectation refers to the fact that unless he specifically stated taht he would pay(which we don't know), a cultural expectation
I didn't absolve the guy from blame. yes he should have communicated the notion of separate tabs, yes he should have been more responsible in warning the girl that jwb drinks are expensive. for his antics, his punishment is that he used up $36 of his money and will most assuredly not see a second date from this girl or a first date from any of her friends. I've also seen it from the females perspective and that's why I think the woman should be accountable for her actions. even when someone clearly says they're paying, I don't go out of my way to gouge them regardless of if I think they can afford it or not. Ordering things so expensive that I can't afford is kind of gouging in a vicious way, no? so sorry, I don't see the naive little girl looking for the "one"... I see someone deliberately taking advantage of a situation. so what do you call a woman who under the assumption that the guy is paying, steers him towards a more expensive venue and buys drinks she can't afford?
Since she isn't the innocent victim here and instead is more of a manipulator, being drunk doesn't absolve one from paying the tab. and prior to getting drunk she made the sober decision to go to a venue that was beyond her means and then proceeded to make the (sober) decision to purchase a drink(s) she knew she wouldn't normally purchase on her own believing it to be on the guys tab. in the end justice was serve on both ends. the guy in my above paragragh and for the girl, the tab for drinks that she herself consumed.
any further punishment/treatment in the form of tatoos or therapy should be administered for both sides.
completing my unfinished paragraph... a cultural expectation is basically a cultural assumption....a cultural assumption which as far as I know holds no legal standing. but like I said....i'm not a lawyer.
im a lawyer. and it is my legal opinion that lawyerchik desperately needs to get laid.
To "cinsta":
Typical guy interpretation!
I would have expected better from another woman, although not from another lawyer, but that's apparently part of the problem. The point remains: it is wrong to treat other human beings as objects in relationships or otherwise. The guy who did this, and yes the girl who drank too much, and many of the people who wrote in - not only on this post but on others who have quoted the same story - all seem to think it's OK to treat dates with total lack of compassion or respect. It's not OK - people deserve to be treated with respect, and frankly, you get what you give out. "What you sow you will reap."
[Speaking of cost-benefit, I would ordinarily charge for giving this kind of advice, so anyone else who may want my opinion can pay me for it!
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lawyerchick - i agree. you reap what you sow. no one is really saying otherwise. people aren't saying that dates should be treated with a total lack of compassion or respect. i've already conceded that the dating scene expects whoever (usually the guy) is asking the other to a date, to pay. its as simple as that. i'd treat them like I would expect my sisters to be treated on a date.
that's not really what we're arguing. to me that the female in this story tried to take advantage of a situation and then reaped the consequences. to you, she's a victim of her own naivete. we can go on and on about each of our respective positions but we probably won't change each others minds. so let's agree to disagree. =)
so are you a lawyer or studying to be one?
You're right - we will have to agree to disagree about this, and that is probably the result of having been on opposite sides of the same situation. To be honest, I experienced something not entirely the same but not too far off that when I was much younger. It was the result of lack of communication on both sides. I assumed that because he had asked me out, he was offering to pay for my side of the evening; he thought that we were splitting the check. The guy was a gentleman about it, but when I found out about the misunderstanding, I made sure I took him out for dinner and dessert (totally my treat). We never had the problem again.
Personally, I never order anything that costs more than I can pay for (but then I also subscribe to the 0-1-2-3 rule when it comes to alcohol), and I always go out prepared to pay for my own entertainment, food, etc. I also don't drink more than maybe a beer/Captain's and diet or 2 on a first date because I would want to be sure my judgment of the guy and how well we got along were not impaired by alcohol.
Already am a lawyer but still studying the law - can't seem to get away from it!! You?
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